2) Yes, every type of wood will show a different result with the same color. While I am located far away, I would be happy to refer you clients should the occasion arise. If I had a choice I’d go with the two component one in the link above. Loba manufactures extremely good finishes though and come very recommended. In fact they’re becoming very popular in commercial projects because they dry fast and don’t stink up the whole building. Bona Traffic HD Anti-Slip Tech Data Sheet Bona Traffic HD Anti-Slip Finish Safety Data Sheet Bona Traffic HD Anti-Slip Hardener Safety Data Sheet Bona Traffic HD Anti-Slip Resistance Certificate Bona Traffic HD Anti-Slip Specifier Paragraphs Bona Traffic HD Anti-Slip Overcoating Specifier Paragraphs Thinking of Staining Your Hardwood Floors a Dark Color? I don't want to hurt the product ratings by giving them anything less. Technically Loba EasyFinish is a 2 coat system over their primer. THANK YOU for your detailed and easy to understand guide for choosing a hardwood floor finish! If you get a hardwood floor installation or refinish from us you can be assured you will get 1 coat of Glitsa Green Sealer and 2 coats of Bona Traffic. 4. I am installer quarter sawn white oak floor through out my house. I’d also love any opinions on application. Contractor says he will do 2 coats of finish and one coat sealer, are they the same or sealer is different from finish. The hardwoods are on a the first floor which is high traffic so sounds like it will in fact, be the most durable…do you agree? I believe that makes the finish more durable. Obviously they take a beating from foot traffic, spills and cleaning (1-2 times daily), which finish would you recommend? You can use Natural colored stain too which will give you the look of oil with the benefits of water base. Copyright 2016 A-Max Hardwood Floors, LLC | All Rights Reserved | RCE-36517 |. Any experience you can share to help choose between the two-component DuraSeal and Loba Supra finish. Usually there is no solvent for a catalyzed finish. One that we use and recommend has zero VOC’s. The wood was singing when others only hum. Considering 3 boys, dogs, and the fact it is a working farm, the floor has seen its share of wear. Did you like the higher VOC oil based finishes better than the 2 component water base ones before they were banned? Hope that helps and your project goes well. Yes Pallmann Magic Oil is a great finish and we highly recommend it. You can repair the damage in the middle of a room and it will be virtually impossible to see if you didn’t know it was there. We are planning on installing hardwood floors one room at a time and would like to go darker. Biggest concerns are water resistance, able to be cleaned well (occasionally with bleach), and scratch/abrasion resistance. Do I buy a power fan to blow hot air? These are some of the benefits of this finish system: If you’re looking for a finish with amazing durability, great looks, very low VOC’s, fast dry and cure time, and is easy to clean and take care of, then this system is going to be an excellent investment for your floors. Bona Traffic and Bona Traffic HD cost two to four times most water-based polyurethane products from MinWax, Varathane, General Finishes and similar products. And unlike high quality surface finish systems, hardwax oil finishes need to be properly maintained and refreshed several times throughout their life to maintain their protective coating. For one thing, they are the most “green” and environmentally friendly finishes available at the moment. What do you think of it? I wish you were in my area of Maryland–I’d hire you to refinish my floors in a heartbeat. After reading this “One downside to water based finishes, if you have oak floors, is the color. Bona Traffic HD's 125 VOC is a 40% reduction compared to the regular Bona Traffic, and is less than half of the most strict laws that regulate floor finishes (Southern California's CARB). I am trying to decide between Rubio Monocoat vs. Pallman’s Magic Oil, with no stain. Bona Traffic remains clear for the life of the floor meaning it will not amber or turn yellow with time. * We were previously using Loba waterborne finishes. If you just apply a clear water base finish to Red Oak it can look dull, flat and lifeless. I think it will last much longer with constant bleaching vs a polyurethane finish. If you don’t want a lot of sheen then it could be perfect for boys and dogs. 3. Costs money to fix and no real professional would compromise a floor by using a cheap incompatible sealer. Anyway- after rereading your article above, I now remember why I was originally leaning toward using a good quality water based poly. It would look great on those floors. It’s very different to Magic Oil though so make sure you read up on the differences between them to see what would be the best for your family. It is too shiny for our liking! Hi Tadas – love your posts. If your contractor has experience with water based finishes he should be fine. For our finish we are using Bona Traffic, Traffic is by far the best product on the market giving customers the same qualities as Glitsa Green of durability and looks. Thought when he said ‘commercial’ he was using a two part product like Loba Supra. Bona Traffic Commercial Satin. Hi, Thanks for taking the time to provide this information. I also save $200 if I go to oil, but since the last finish lasted 14 years I really don’t care about the $200. ), Now, after some delays, we are finally about to get our hardwood floors refinished. Bona Traffic HD is a two-component timber floor coating. 16% is high. The only one I have found so far is Stonewood products – they use the Rubio Monocoat. On an average floor you will get around 4-5 re-sands. Hi Devon. So the first estimate is right. If my hardwood floor contractor has not used this line, will he be able to do properly? It is the industry's premium finish for durability and beauty. Our wholesale price for a gallon of high-end finish is in the triple digits—compared to say maybe $30.00 for cheap “handyman” finish. Loba Invisible AT would work well for this. I wish you wanted to take a road trip to SC because I would hire you in instant. 4) Again testing is a must. 445 Posts . AT or WB easier to apply if never used the product? Thanks in advance. Additionally, Traffic HD is GreenGuard Gold Certified, with lower VOCs than the original Traffic finish, and it is also food safe. So there you have it. But like you, I do wish it was available too. Hopefully this series of articles has helped educate you on the basics of hardwood floor finishes and has shown you a clear choice as to what finish system you’d like to invest in for your hardwood floors. Traffic beats the competition with over 2x the build, this is important as it signifies that it will outlast the other products durability. Here are the application instructions (go to the download link): http://www.loba.de/us/products/waterborne-finishes/2-component-waterborne-finishes/product/2k-supra-at.html. We will use the 4 re-sand number for this example. These products are designed to be applied with a roller, painters pad or t-bar. This was a very large house, we want last finish. But after reading on your sites of fire hazard with these product makes me really concerned. Your email address will not be published. Bona Traffic HD is a waterborne wood floor finish that provides an exceptional level of durability and ease of use. comment? Sealers are what protect your wood from moisture and other harmful elements. At A-Max over our 15 years we have been using the best sealers/finishes. Now that kid are grown, the floor needs to be sanded and refinished. We are installing new hickory throughout the house. Our kitchen is still a high traffic area, which product do you recommend? Both are very good finishes. We are in Georgia, so it’s hot and humid most of the time. Thanks!! You have a choice between matte, satin, semi-gloss and gloss with most finish systems. 4.4 out of 5 stars 108. When I installed these I put min wax stain and several coats of polyurethane. As you can see from the Finish Comparison chart in Part 3 their overall score comes in second only to the 2 component water based finishes. Oil or WS Easy? Thank you for the compliments… you’re more than welcome. One is a clear coating and the other has an amber hue due to the oil in it. PS It may be helpful to note that my floor has varied plank widths of 3″-5″ & 7″. You will get 1 coat of sealer. We don’t mind rustic look but have to be able to keep it clean! Commercial/restaurant flooring – we’re looking to install oak or pine floors (cost dependent) in our restaurant at the beach, so high humidity, sand and the building is over a crawl space and we’re thinking oil or hardwax oil. We are looking for exactly what you look for in a finish: Has to look good, long-lasting, durable to traffic and resistant to spills and relative easy maintenance and repair, non “yellow” excessively over time. I have a question about using the newer, water-based finishes when you are trying to match the appearance of an older oil-based poly. The faster cure time is a great improvement for the needs of today's contractor and homeowner. Is there a good way to closely match the floors? I want a matte finish that will handle wear and tear. i.e. I apologize for overlooking your post. I’ve been on the search for a Rubio-finished engineered floor to use over hydronic heat in our rehabbed farmhouse for several months. 3. One downside to water based finishes is the color if you have Red Oak floors. The professional we hired told us to pick a water-based stain from Minwax, but their “charcoal grey” reads blue to me. Make sure all excess is removed too. These relatively new finishes have been a big welcoming surprise to us over the last decade. Do you have any thoughts on this other than your article, and is there any objective wear data for different finishes that might be more conclusive than personal opinion or experience? Bona Traffic; 4. I wanted oil, he convinced me this was the way to go. Satin or semi-gloss? I love your reviews of the top three Rubio, Loba and Ciranova products. I have two kids and my wife and I really like the low/no VOC content of the Monocoat product. We recently refinished our red oak floors with a duraseal mix of true black and country white for what turned out to be a beautiful grey color. During our latest testing in 2020 the new reformulated Pallmann finishes came out ahead and is what we are using going forward. Hello Tadas, I am having my floors re-finished next week and the highly rated company doing it is using Loba Ws easy Finish. The price of Junckers HP Commercial and Bona traffic is normally between £65 – 90, but if you look in our floor sanding shop you will find it at the best price on line to my belief. Thank you so much, Tadas. I’m going to have a white oak #2 grade floor and walnut character grade floor sanded and refinished. The only concern I have is your contractor who doesn’t have much experience with water-based finishes. Thank you! You can see the results of our months of testing and more detailed information about these finishes here: Pallmann Magic Oil original review and the 2020 update. 4. It allows for full traffic to be resumed just 12 hours after application, and was developed for application on large surfaces. My questions to you are: 1) What is your experience of the durability of Rubio in water prone areas like kitchen and bath? Since you now use Loba products, do you have any experience with Loba Supra AT? If you are going to use stain then my recommendation for a hardwax oil would be Pallmann Magic Oil. I just found (and fell in love with!) But let’s go through the minor drawbacks of these finishes so you have the full picture. There is a clear winner for which to use. Easy of maintenance is its best quality. Thanks so much, Carol. Yes we use Universal Maintenance Oil for this. We can’t be certain how much of it was caused by the product and how much due to contractor error. The highest one is 50g/liter — compared to oil based finishes that are around 500g/liter and Glitsa that has 725g/liter. We’re always happy to help. Open Monday-Friday - 8:00am-5:00pm. We will be getting a new puppy in the spring – most likely a lab, so a floor that can hold up to pets is needed. In the last article we compared all of the finish systems side-by-side and ended up choosing the 3 best by process of elimination. For our finish we are using Bona Traffic, Traffic is by far the best product on the market giving customers the same qualities as Glitsa Green of durability and looks. Bona Traffic is a waterborne, commercial and residential hardwood floor finish. When the wood matters - Bona Traffic HD Extra Matte.This product comes with both the A and B parts. With certain systems (particularly Rubio Monocoat), the custom colors and mixes you can achieve is incredible. Our flooring guy plans to use this product for our floors. Here we are applying this water-based finish…, (Unfortunately we can’t work this fast in real life.). I am also getting stairs (including handrails & post) done along with this. Thanks for your help. Search “epoxy table top resin” in Google and have a look at that option. We use other Loba products and they are a very reputable brand. -JP. Low VOC, GREENGUARD certified and fast drying, Bona Traffic HD is the smart choice. We are looking at 20 gallons to do our white oak reclaimed barn wood floors. Thanks in advance. For background, I have unfinished glued-on engineered wood with 4mm wear layer, that’s finished in-place natural. 4.8 out of 5 stars 20. Bona Traffic HD outperforms urethane finishes with superior durability in as little as 24 hours. How long should the stain dry before the oil? Have any of the oil-based polys improved enough since you originally wrote this article that you would now recommend them? Bona Traffic Finishes Questions For People That Have Used It; 7. I hope you have the time and are able to answer soon as I can not seem to get many solid answers from Rubio. 4) Does Rubios fumed and smoke only work for white oak? Different floor sanding companies will swear by either Bona or Junckers products, but in reality they are the same. Does it wear as well? Also, based on the type of wood I have should I look for a company that uses the hardwax oil finishes? You can see that top quality finishes can triple your floors life and why it is important to know what finish your contractor is using and if it will be the best for your floor. However, it sounds like, from what you have explained, that the quality of the oil-based polys has really gone down since we originally did the stairs. Sealer is different than finish. Bona Traffic HD Anti-Slip. I’m leaning toward AT as it seems to be more scratch resistant. Lots of confusing information out there! $116.96 $ 116. During my 3 month search for wide plank flooring, I saw a sample where the wood had been sealed before the hard wax was applied. Just keep looking after them, spot repair damaged areas, do the proper maintenance coats and the finish should last a very long time — as long as you still take good care of the actual wood and don’t gouge, chip and dent your floors. You can be assured their 2 component finish is good. If you want something completely out of the ordinary and unique then you’ll definitely want to consider this option. There are scratches already and I have a stain from water sitting on the floor over night, I am attempting to get rid of the stain by refinishing that area and hoping for the best. Our methods have been tested and proven for over 15 years. He should be able to answer all your questions. If we were doing it, we would make a sample close to the stairs to get as close a match as possible. Things like a small percentage of neutral stain added to the original color, or a percentage of a darker stain added, can make up the difference. It’s very durable and doesn’t show scratches easily because of the very low sheen. Here’s a project we did not long ago with an ultra-matte water based finish over White Oak…. They also have built in UV inhibitors, so they won’t change color anywhere near as quickly as the oil based finishes. Hi again, Mr. Sadunas! Its a better option than using a lower quality finish and still not having a perfect match. We have 3/4″ white oak in our home that is cupped, and just tested for up to 16% moisture content (we just bought the home so don’t know how long the cupping has been there or if it’s seasonal). I would appreciate your opinion. We don’t have a lot of experience with this product just yet. Learn how at 0:35. I would get that issue sorted out first. 2. Hi Friends Hope You Doing Well I Like Little Tree Bali Facebook; 6. Or will the 3 coats be enough? Many different brands and products among those three groups as toning down red! 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